Kelvin Teo catches up with Reverend Dr Yap Kim Hao

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Reverend Dr Yap Kim Hao received his primary and secondary education from the Anglo Chinese School. He subsequently earned his Bachelor of Arts degree in Chemistry and Biology from Baker University, and his Master of Divinity and Doctor of Theology Degrees from the Boston University School of Theology. His accolades include an hononary Doctor of Divinity degree conferred by Baker University, a Distinguished Alumni Award by the Boston University School of Theology and the Order of Jerusalem medal that was presented to him in recognition of his services at the World Methodist Council.

Dr Yap was consecrated the 1st Asian Bishop of the Methodist Church in Singapore and Malaysia in 1968 and elected to serve as General Secretary of the Christian Conference of Asia in 1973. He was made the Visiting Professor of World Christianity at Perkins School of Theology, Southern Methodist University. He also formerly taught in Summer school at the Vancouver School of Theology.

Currently retired from full-time Christian ministry, Dr Yap is serving as Pastoral Advisor to the Free Community Church.

Kelvin Teo: You are currently serving as Pastoral Advisor to the Free Community Church, a role you regard as the calling of God, since your retirement from full-time Christian ministry. Your mission is to declare Christ’s inclusive love (the Agape spirit) to those who have been ostracized and neglected for far too long by the Church. Care to share with us what specific events occurred in your life that led you to live up to your calling to minister to this unfortunate (as a result of ostracization and living in the closet) group of people?

YKH:Early in my ministry a leading lawyer asked me the question about the teaching of the Church on the issue of homosexuality. This issue was not discussed publicly at that time. The Church did not bother to state its position. The gays and lesbians were in their closets and most people assumed it to be a closed subject since the Bible has declared that same-sex relationship is wrong. In my naivete, I looked up the five or six biblical passages that relate to it which concluded that homosexuality is a sin.

Later, I re-read, studied and interpreted the passages which was not taught even in my seminary. Reputable scholars of the Bible with other than conventional views gave their interpretations which seem to be credible and convincing to me.

The story of Sodom now linguistically linked to sodomy was an issue of inhospitality to visiting strangers. It is never an account about same-sex relations. It was as defined in Ezekial 16:47-50 as pride, gluttony, and prosperous ease and refusal to aid the poor and needy. Sodom is a symbol of God’s judgment rather than same-sex relations.

The word homosexuality as we understand it today is a modern word and has no equivalent in the original Hebrew and Greek languages of the Bible. It was first coined in 1869 by a Swiss doctor to refer to aesthetic attraction, romantic love and sexual desire exclusively between members of the same sex. It was injected into the Bible as late as 1946 in the Revised Standard Version by the translators and was subsequently dropped in 1971. With such evidence how can I regard homosexuality a sin.

Moving on, when a medical graduate from a wealthy family had come out to his mother, he requested me to counsel her about acceptance of her homosexual son. Again I naively asked the question whether with all his money he has consulted a good psychiatrist to cure his mental disorder. He turned to me with his quizzical look and I was embarrassed for I had asked a stupid question.

I then learnt that already in 1973 the American Psychiatric Association has removed homosexuality from its list of personality disorders. This was followed by other Western professional associations of psychology, counseling, mental health, pediatrics, school teachers, social workers and other related groups. They also raised concerns about the bad effects of reparative therapy which seeks to change sexual orientation. In August 2009, the American Psychological Association (150,000 members) Governing Council declared that “No solid evidence exists that such change is likely, says the resolution, adopted by a 125-4 vote. The APA said some research suggests that efforts to produce change could be harmful, inducing depression and suicidal tendencies.” It is the most comprehensive repudiation of “reparative therapy” which is pursued by a small group of religiously conservative therapists who maintain gays can change their sexual orientation.. Can I ignore the declarations and warnings of these proficient professional associations?

Kelvin Teo: In a letter published to the Straits Times on 18 July 2003, you described an interesting account of how you used to believe homosexual acts are always wrong. After listening to gay and lesbian students and friends, however, you have had to rethink your position and reread the Scriptures. Do you mind sharing with us the kind of thought processes you went through when you re-read the scriptures that finally led to your re-evaluation of your position (referring to the scriptures if you wish)?

YKH:In a more careful study of the Bible I realise that the words of the Bible were not dictated or handed down by God. Faithful and inspired men and a few women received what they believed to be revelations which were not literal words but interpretations of their understanding of what God had revealed. They were first transmitted orally. They subsequently wrote them down and the words of the Bible were copied and translated into different languages from the original Hebrew and Greek. The Bible contains interpreted words of the writers of the different books of the Bible. There were other religious books which were not able to gain acceptance by the religious authorities then to form the sacred text of the Bible. The Bible is historically related and culturally bound. We are compelled to study and interpret its relevance to our contemporary context. The process continues.

Kelvin Teo: What kind of internal struggles do you think a homosexual Christian will experience?

YKH:Christian LGBT faced far too long the rejection, marginalisation, stigmatisation, ostracisation and oppression in society. They were forced to stay in lonely isolation in their closets. They were compelled to act as if they are straights when they appear in public. A heavy burden of guilt was placed on their shoulders and they cry out in their silence and solitude. They did not choose to be a homosexual. On the contrary, they want to change their sexual orientation and they tried prayer, exorcism, reparative therapy but of no avail. In their spiritual and emotional struggles there are those who were able to overcome and believe that God loves them and affirm homosexuality is a gift of God that they accept with grace and able to come out to the world with pride. Society is beginning to be enlightened and becoming to be aware that the LGBT person can believe and sing “Jesus loves me this I know for the Bible tells me so.” The tide of their liberation is rising everywhere for those who have eyes to see. God has heard their cries and will deliver them.

Kelvin Teo: What was the effect of the AWARE saga on the Christian community specifically?

YKH:The AWARE saga was a revealing experience in our society. It shows the danger of Christian fundamentalism. It had surfaced the schemes of the Christian Religious Right.

A government leader in a private conversation with me commented that one can do that in America where the majority are Christian oriented although it is not good to splinter the Christian community. But in a multi-religious society in Singapore it is a totally dangerous development. No one religion should impose its beliefs and values and displace those from other religions. We cannot afford to tear apart the delicate fabric of social cohesion. We cannot have the luxury to engage in religious conflict between faith communities. We need to respect differences in our diversity, engage in dialogue and work together for the common good and ensure a just and peaceful future.

Kelvin Teo: What are the possible approaches of engaging the Christian community in a way that will lead to the acceptance of brothers and sisters-in-Christ who are gays and lesbians?

YKH:Most of the Christian churches have recently been politically correct to declare that they welcome homosexuals and love them. It seems to be that there is an unwritten condition that the homosexuals should not tell that they are gay and if they do then they must recognize that homosexuality is a sin and that they should not engage in same-sex acts and become celibate.

Gays and lesbians know that too well and will continue to stay in the larger closet of the congregation and forced to wear masks and live a lie that they are just like them.

The Christian community must re-study the Scriptures and reflect upon the interpretation of the particular passages relating to same-sex acts and come to their own decision whether the Church’s official teaching that homosexuality is a sin or not.

Most people shun and avoid meeting the gays and lesbians. They are people of sacred worth created by God like you and me. We are called to love even our enemies and they are not your enemies. He or she is your own son and daughter or your relative and they were born into your family and they did not choose to be there. Own them and love them, they are your kith and kin. The gay person is a human being created by the same God who created you and me and each one of us different. We belong together to God the Creator of us all. We are one human family.

Kelvin Teo: Care to share with us the high points and low points of your service as Pastoral Advisor to the Free Community Church?

YKH:I regard it as a privilege and a calling of God to stand alongside with those who are despised and rejected. Even though I am being misunderstood widely I find this a defining moment in my ministry. Knowing that I do not agree with the teaching of the Church on this particular issue I believe that I have to be obedient to God in serving the LGBT community.

When I see the liberating effects of those who made the hard decision and dare to appear in the Free Community Church (FCC) at a great risk, I thank God that they have come home and received God’s welcome. They are free at last from guilt and shame and walk with their heads held high. They start with leaving their masks at the door of FCC and then throwing their masks away as they relate to others in the world.

There are those in FCC who are still in doubt and wrestling with the issue of their sexual orientation. They have to unload the false teaching of the Church and it is not easy. It was cruel of the Christian community to cause them so much suffering and pain. They need to regain their self-esteem and worship the God who is loving.

The follow-up service is to help those in FCC who have accepted their sexual orientation to live the responsible life of a Christian LGBT. The moral quality of life must be different from those who are not guided by religious faith. They will need to grow in spirituality and improve the quality of Christian living.

Kelvin Teo: If there is a message that you can pass on to i)a homosexual Chistian ii) other Christians who have yet to accept their gay and lesbian brothers and sisters-in-Christ for who they are, what would it be?

YKH:Do not remain in your closet and exist in lonely existence. There is help and hope available around you. Seek out others around you who can support you in your struggle. Keep your faith in Christ who will set you free.

Know the damage done by the Church to our brothers and sisters in Christ. Many have abandoned the Church because they have not been ministered. We have cast them out and they are rebellious and have given up on Christian faith. Reach out to them.as a witness for Christ who associated with the dispossessed. Extend your hand in genuine friendship and concern and embrace them with your love and affection.

Interviewer’s comments:It is noteworthy that Dr Yap has elected to face head-on an issue long considered a taboo within the Christian circles. It is also refreshing to hear how Dr Yap draws inspiration from the scriptures in ministering to an unfortunate group of people. We can glean from him his biblical perspectives surrounding the issue of Christian LGBT as he refers to specific instances within the scriptures. Special praise should be reserved for Dr Yap’s promotion of an all-embracing love towards those whom are different from the rest. It is the sort of Agape spirit, that is taught not only in Christianity but also in other faiths and belief systems that is awe-inspiring, and is something that we should try to emulate. The Agape spirit is indeed the celebration of the human spirit of love.

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4 Responses to Kelvin Teo catches up with Reverend Dr Yap Kim Hao

  1. A good article.

    It is rare that one would
    stand up for others when it would cost him dearly.

    Perhaps, this is Christianity.

  2. JayF

    “It is rare that one would
    stand up for others when it would cost him dearly.

    Perhaps, this is Christianity.

    Cost him? Yap has already retired from the Methodist church which means he now doesn’t run the risk of explusion or excommunication.

    He has nothing to lose really. He advise the Gay Community Church, openly contradicts what the Bible says by applying context in a decidedly out of context manner and even wrote before there are many truths in other religion in a spirtual sense, contradicting again what Jesus himself said of Him being the Way, the Truth and the Life with no one going to the Father except through him.

    Why not declare himself Unitarian and be done with this. He isn’t fooling anyone in calling himself a Christian.

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